Basic PTM - Organizational Charts

IWasntInClass (2:14:29 PM): hola eProf

IWasntInClass (2:16:41 PM): i hear there is confusion involving the organizational chart assignment

IWasntInClass (2:17:04 PM): which concerns me since i started it and wasn't confused or didn't realize i should be

eProf (2:44:43 PM): oh?

IWasntInClass (2:45:05 PM): yeah

IWasntInClass (2:45:11 PM): i think just with the formatting

IWasntInClass (2:45:30 PM): you just want us to take the chart given in class and put in excel or something right?

IWasntInClass (2:45:44 PM): and then do another one for how we work here

IWasntInClass (2:45:45 PM): ?

eProf (2:45:45 PM): you have to do two charts

IWasntInClass (2:45:56 PM): right

eProf (2:45:59 PM): one that pretty much replicates what we did on the board

eProf (2:46:21 PM): the organization of the "prototypical regional" production department

eProf (2:46:29 PM): and the second

eProf (2:46:56 PM): that shows all the people and relationships necessary to do a production

eProf (2:47:32 PM): mostly limited to the production side

eProf (2:47:38 PM): rather than the producing side

eProf (2:47:52 PM): so you don't need the finance office

eProf (2:47:55 PM): or development

eProf (2:48:09 PM): but you do need all the people who have the ideas or execute the ideas

IWasntInClass (2:49:10 PM): did you give us that information in class?

eProf (2:50:05 PM): the nature of the assignment or all the people in the show?

IWasntInClass (2:51:21 PM): um, any information beyond the production side of the people involved

eProf (2:51:42 PM): no, I figured you'd been involved with a show before

eProf (2:52:02 PM): we talked a little bit about it when people brought up job titles that weren't on the chart we were doing

eProf (2:52:10 PM): and we talked about the idea at the end

eProf (2:52:21 PM): how the people there could stand on their own without a show

eProf (2:52:29 PM): but needed other people for the ideas to do a show

IWasntInClass (2:52:33 PM): ah

IWasntInClass (2:52:46 PM): do we need to include those on the chart?

eProf (2:53:18 PM): How the group actually relates to each other (who gets their instructions & information from whom) when producing a show (from your observations and experience). There will likely be titles on this chart that are not on the other.

IWasntInClass (2:53:21 PM): (i wasn't in class, so i'm just clarifying all this info)

eProf (2:53:55 PM): The second chart may very quickly begin to look like a furball. Be sure at least to include production department heads and the creative team. Crews, staff, & advisors are added at your discretion.

IWasntInClass (2:53:59 PM): so, we need to include the idea people on the second chart?

IWasntInClass (2:54:05 PM): yes?

eProf (2:55:12 PM): that appears to be what it says

IWasntInClass (2:55:13 PM): and not the first...?

eProf (2:55:44 PM): How a typical Regional theatre production staff is structured (from the class presentation).

eProf (2:56:19 PM): this is all pretty clear on the assignment sheet

IWasntInClass (2:58:02 PM): okay, well i had other people telling me (when i was asking originally since i missed the class presentation) that the second one was supposed to be like, how it works here...

IWasntInClass (2:58:24 PM): and then when i read the assignment sheet...it seemed contradictory

eProf (2:58:44 PM): you can use your experience here to help inform the content of the second chart

IWasntInClass (2:59:24 PM): okay

IWasntInClass (3:00:36 PM): so, for the sake of process, would it be reasonable to print out two copies of the first chart and then draw lots of crazy lines connecting everyone on the second one and then go back and attempt to reformat it to fit?

eProf (3:01:01 PM): I think that will be restrictive

eProf (3:01:06 PM): but its one way

IWasntInClass (3:01:18 PM): what would you recommend?

eProf (3:01:32 PM): you could start with your chart #1 and then add in people and lines and then see what you need to do to format it

eProf (3:01:40 PM): I guess that works

IWasntInClass (3:01:42 PM): okay that's what i meant

eProf (3:01:55 PM): I think I might start with nothing

eProf (3:02:04 PM): and add people by what they do

eProf (3:02:15 PM): but maybe this is just a case of "you have to start someplace"

IWasntInClass (3:02:19 PM): okay

IWasntInClass (3:05:47 PM): so you are expecting most people's second charts to resemble how it works here?

eProf (3:07:37 PM): that's not the priority

IWasntInClass (3:08:03 PM): right, but it's likely, yes?

IWasntInClass (3:08:14 PM): i'm not saying you're grading on that

eProf (3:08:17 PM): the priority is to see the necessary relationships for doing a play and how they can differ from the hire & fire relationships of the organization of a typical production department

IWasntInClass (3:08:33 PM): k