But I’m not showing you this just for the lulz. This is a public service, a teachable moment for everybody who doesn’t know the line between “effective networking” and “annoying striver”….
Tuesday, April 01, 2014
Gunner FAIL: Firm Rescinds Offer After Offeree Asks Too Many Questions
But I’m not showing you this just for the lulz. This is a public service, a teachable moment for everybody who doesn’t know the line between “effective networking” and “annoying striver”….
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I can definitely understand why the firm decided not to hire him after all. That student clearly overstepped some boundaries, and hopefully he will learn from this unfortunate experience. It's definitely hard to navigate in the professional world during or right after college, and I know that I am often worried about being too forthcoming in applications and sometimes hold back because of it. There's definitely a balance to find, and this guy was way off mark!
I understand that they rejected the guy for his attitude, and rightly so, but I feel like i also understand what the guy thought he was doing. Hopefully, the guy asked those questions out of a desire for more knowledge in an aspiring way, but inadvertently put his foot way too far into his mouth. The parallels to myself and people i know draw themselves. It seems like something that CMU drama, no everyone, runs into, and has to fix, and mellow the temperament of those people. In myself, i worry i come across like this some, and need to work on it.
While it is important to have ambition, it's also important to know your place and while I understand what this guy was trying to do, the email accepting his job offer was definitely not the place to do it. I know what it's like to start at a large company and that when you first start, no one cares about what you think and you have earn the right to have an opinion. There is definitely a point where being a go getter goes to far and this guy managed to go a mile beyond that point.
Wow, that was a little harsh, but was it really necessary to rescind the the acceptance based on the fact that should have asked these questions to a human resources fellow? Probably not. That's why I sympathize for the application in questions 1 and 2. However, I think they had the right to rescind his job after the third one. While I appreciate this person's intent to improve himself as an employee, but he's overstepping his bounds. Taking these classes makes him seem like's he's not devoted to the job. Plus, he didn't understand his place in the company. He's an intern. If hospital TV shows have taught me anything, it's that there's a pecking order to things. And he overstepped the order.
This can be a difficult line to walk, because I hear over and over again to try and negotiate any offer of employment, and this kid clearly thought he was being smart by not asking for more money, but for intangibles. Unfortunately for him, email is the absolute worst way to do this kind of negotiating, because you can't get a feel for how the other person is reacting, and you're stuck with making all of your demands at once. Hopefully this will be a situation where the guy laughs at himself in 20 years for how stupid he was, but it sure must sting now.
The firm was absolutely justified in their decision to rescind the offer of employment for the clerk. The third question asked was absolutely out of line. He had the job already, he really should not have bragged about his grand plan to bring more business to the firm, who is definitely doing okay financially. It was immature, and borderline insulting. I really hope the potential employee learned his lesson.
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